Ms Jenny, I would like to know a little more about the modification to your North Shore seat. I recently acquired, and have about 15+ hours of initial paddling in a North Shore Freewater (16 ft.). I believe it has the same seat as a Calypso. There is always a short time needed for a body to adjust. I’m doing ok at that, for now, but looking at foam seat and masik enhancements, if not just carving a whole new seat for this kayak.
Did your foam blocks, set 3 1/2 inches forward, allow you to sit that far ahead, or we’re they meant to support upper legs? I rely on a backband (but not as a backrest). If you use one, was it moved forward as well?
Finding this Freewater was just pure luck. I am very impressed with the build quality and the way this hull design behaves under way.
… I glued two pieces of mini-cell foam in front of the seat, leaving a gap in the center to allow water to move inside the hull from the front bulkhead to the rear bulk head. Then I shaped the top of the mini-cell foam blocks to match the height and curve of the front of the seat. The foam blocks extend about 3.5 inches in front of the seat.
Thought I'd add a word of encouragement -- I built a Shrike-R for rolling and made it as compact as possible for my frame. First paddles this spring were not encouraging - lots of back pain from sitting on a 3/4" foam pad, legs almost straight out. There was no room to adjust the boat, so I worked on adjusting the body with yoga style stretching exercises. I'm 70 and have more than a bit of arthritis in my bones, but the exercises have made a huge difference. I now start to get uncomfortable after about a half-hour of paddling and rolling, but this is far better than it was at first, and I find I can continue to improve my flexibility. It's not always a boat issue!
This has been a very interesting thread for me! A couple of years ago (in my late 60s) it became almost impossible for me to paddle my Valley Avocet, which I've had for many years, because of pain/ cramping in my hip flexors. Like Moulton, the only relief I can get is from leaning back - not a very efficient paddling position. I can paddle a "rec boat" which gets my butt higher than my feet and has a seat back rather than just a back band. I think tight hamstrings are the primary problem but I haven't been very successful at stretching them. Maybe the yoga poses will help. Thanks everyone!
Hi Jane - Thank you so much for responding to my question. Could you send me a picture of your seat? email@example.com. I live in Vancouver, WA. There's a company in Port Townsend - Redfishkayak.com that makes foam seats and I've been thinking about getting in touch with them to see what experience they have with Tahe Greenland kayaks. Just holding off because I was reluctant to remove the factory seat if there was a less drastic solution - and it would be a bummer to put in a foam one if it didn't solve the problem. That said, I can't paddle the Tahe for very long as things stand, so something has to change. Me, the kayak, or maybe both.
Christopher, thank you so much for your advice. I'll check out the Yoga stretches that you referenced. My right hip was replaced 15 years ago and my left one is due for one soon. I have to work around some stretches because of arthritis pain, but you've given me some new techniques to try. I'll keep you posted on this. I have noticed that the "butt" portion of the Tahe seat is lower than the front, and I think it's lower than the seat in my Nordkapp. Both are unpadded "hard" seats, but I have no problem with the Nordkapp. When I ordered the Nordkapp, I had the forward bulkhead custom made to my leg length, so there are no foot pegs. I'm seriously thinking about removing the pegs in the Tahe and adding a foam block. One other question: Do you think using a foam Masik in the Tahe would help? Again, my friend, I appreciate your help on this.
thanks! I will check it out.
DO you have a reference, or could you explain in more detail, what the "bound angle" pose is? I think I understand the "forward fold". What other yoga poses do you recommend for use greenland kayakers?
Moulton- Christopher has great suggestions for you: he's spot on with his remarks.
The hard seat, in the Tahe Greenland kayak, puts a stress on most folks. You might consider replacing the hard seat (if that is what you have) with a foam seat, and perhaps one that allows some flexion in the hips (the seat has an angle so that the area where your tailbone rests is a wee bit lower than the end where your thighs rest: I hope this makes sense). If you lived closer I'd let you borrow the foam seat that was made for my Tahe Greenland, to see if it helps.
My wife had a similar problem which was immediately relieved by placing support padding just in front of the seat, enough to get the pressure off her thighs from the seat. Of course, everyone's 'seat problem' is different. For example, I was quite happy in her kayak.
I've owned one kayak since 1984 - a Valley Nordkapp - so I have very little experience paddling other kayaks. Several months ago I purchased a used Tahe Greenland. It has the same size ocean cockpit as my Nordkapp. It rolls and sculls like a dream, but after about 30 minutes, my hips start to hurt and it feels like I'm having difficulty sitting up straight - like I want to lean back to relieve the pain. After an hour or so, the pain is really distracting and the only relief I can find is by pulling my torso a little more upright by grabbing the deck lines. The pain arrives earlier when I'm rolling and sculling.
The Tahe has no Masik or padding of any sort under the deck. I've tried adjusting the backband and foot pegs in a variety of combinations and while that helped in some cases, the overall problem remains. My flexibility isn't all that great, but I only have this problem in the Tahe. Any advice you have is greatly appreciated. BTW - I haven't tried a Masik yet.
Thanks, Moulton Avery